Game Design Topic 1- 2-D or 3-D?

Re: Game Design Topic 1- 2-D or 3-D?

feeds@yuku.com (Deus) — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:20:03 GMT

I don't smoke, but I'm about to start.

Re: Game Design Topic 1- 2-D or 3-D?

feeds@yuku.com (Prototeen) — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:19:19 GMT

Well I must say this is more like what I wanted. Sorry I've been late, but it's time I set this in full motion. I want to thank you 8Bit, you make very intellegent responses, although I disagree with your chao dislike. I have decide to continue with this project and will now open a main thread where all my topics will be posted. You are free to continue to post here, but it would be wise to take your thoughts over to the main thread. Thanks to everyone, it was a rough start, but...

Re: Game Design Topic 1- 2-D or 3-D?

feeds@yuku.com (Shifty) — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 16:13:42 GMT

We basically have Emerl coz at the end of Advance 3 that looks-exactly-like-Emerl-robot was totally all hanging out with Cream <__< And Tails put his hands inside of the robot. With tools.

Re: Game Design Topic 1- 2-D or 3-D?

feeds@yuku.com (Jeffery Mewtamer) — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 16:08:59 GMT

I like the Chao, some do not. I could live with the Chao being retconned out of existence within the Sonic 'canon', but I do wish that they would produce a Chao raising game for the DS, even if it was nothing but a direct port of the original Chao engine using downgraded versions of the original 3-d models.

As for other points of discussion: I loved Shadow in SA2 and Sonic Battle, but I hate what they have done with the character elsewhere. I loved Emerl in Sonic Battle, and...

Re: Game Design Topic 1- 2-D or 3-D?

feeds@yuku.com (Shifty) — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 14:27:50 GMT

YAY FANGAMES!! *loses clothes in the uproar*

*puts socks back on to approach Craig comfortably* I appreciate your Emerl love.

Re: Game Design Topic 1- 2-D or 3-D?

feeds@yuku.com (Craig Bayfield) — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:52:55 GMT

There is no connection between Chao and the emeralds. Having the Chao garden in the Master Emerald shrine was a plot device to give the echidnas a reason to antagonize their peaceful guardian, Chaos.

And I assume Chaos himself has no major connection to the emeralds, spare being stored in the Master and being Dragonball Z homage #152 by absorbing them to attain "Perfect Form".

Re: Game Design Topic 1- 2-D or 3-D?

feeds@yuku.com (8Bit Star) — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:58:33 GMT

Who cares about Sonic Team? I'm just hoping somebody makes a good fan game that utilizes some of the expressed ideas. There have been promising starts in the past.

I only hate the Chao when they've got a tangible plot presence, like in SA1. All the other new characters vaguely fit my idea of the Sonic mythos, and that they're the only anthropomorphic animals on a mostly-human planet fits if I make up a personal canon that incorperates the beginning of Sonic X... but the...

Re: Game Design Topic 1- 2-D or 3-D?

feeds@yuku.com (Ashide Bunni) — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:42:06 GMT

Threads like this are kind of pointless because I believe that most Sonic Team really don't give a crap about this franchise except to recieve a paycheck let alone listening to the wishes of any hopeful Sonic fan outside of the series main demographic(everyone over the age of 12).

Re: Game Design Topic 1- 2-D or 3-D?

feeds@yuku.com (Craig Bayfield) — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:25:56 GMT

Got to concur. But you already made it clear you dislike SA1/2 which are mostly well recieved as far as my perceptions have seen over my 9 year stint at this forum.

I really adore the Chao mini-game and find it a damn shame that they never made a solo Chao game for the DS.

But rather than argue your points, and to add, Prototeen's comments on the swords, I'll simply say this.

In a short number of posts, you've proven why the fans can't and WONT...

Re: Game Design Topic 1- 2-D or 3-D?

feeds@yuku.com (Sailor Rose Dust) — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:39:43 GMT

10. I don't mind if you acknowledge Shadow, Amy, Big, Cream or most of the half-million characters that have been introduced in the more recent games. I personally like most of the extended cast. But... the Chao don't exist. Please, whatever story/continuity/retcons you go with, please forget the Chao. I'd rather have Mannix and Sophia than the Chao.

You have lost my respect, sir.

Re: Game Design Topic 1- 2-D or 3-D?

feeds@yuku.com (Kiorein) — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:37:31 GMT

But... the Chao don't exist. Please, whatever story/continuity/retcons you go with, please forget the Chao. I'd rather have Mannix and Sophia than the Chao.

!!!!

Why the hate?

Re: Game Design Topic 1- 2-D or 3-D?

feeds@yuku.com (8Bit Star) — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:16:01 GMT

For that matter, has 3D Realms even released any games in the last ten years?

Personally I think the plan to "save Sonic" is kind of pointless.

Cuz think about it.... Between the Genesis and Game Gear, Sonic has been in 24 games (if my count is correct), most of them the 2D sidescrollers everyone loves. In that amount of games, Sonic has pretty much done everything it can as a series.

So how do you revitalize it? Well you give it a major shift,...

Re: Game Design Topic 1- 2-D or 3-D?

feeds@yuku.com (Prototeen) — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:51:57 GMT

Thanks guys, these are the responses I'm looking for! Now I understand your skepticisms on my plan, it is a true rareity when someone fights big buisness/government to fix an injustice, but I'm the kind of guy whose got a serious case of Stickittotheman-Neosis and doesn't just stand back and take the crap. Now Craig, unless you didn't already know, of course every game company would rather make a quick buck on crap than use their time to make something work, but the companies...

Re: Game Design Topic 1- 2-D or 3-D?

feeds@yuku.com (Shifty) — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:58:25 GMT

I want Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Cream and Gemerl. That's "it". (<__<) I go LOL @ too many characters. Forcing yourself to play the parts you don't want to is weird.

Those six characters could be sooo different enough if they tried. Cream should pick up and throw things with her ears. Amy totally needs rollerskates and Gemerl can shoot things. The levels for the characters who aren't as...

Re: Game Design Topic 1- 2-D or 3-D?

feeds@yuku.com (matthayter700) — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:09:42 GMT

Prototeen wrote:
Hello fellow Sonic fans, I have come here to fix a great deal of wrongs that plague our favorite hedgehog's series. Now if you think this is just another save Sonic thread, you are wrong. Unlike the others, I plan to take every suggestion seriously, so that when I do become
a game designer(either for Sega(unlikely) or in my own company(more likely)) I have a good set of plans ready to go. Now this...

Re: Game Design Topic 1- 2-D or 3-D?

feeds@yuku.com (8Bit Star) — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:28:23 GMT

Craig Bayfield wrote:
As for your blanket assumptions. Please remember that Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 exist and were good

To some.

and that S3&K was not the last good game in the series,

Indeed, Sonic 3D Blast is chronically underrated.

Re: Game Design Topic 1- 2-D or 3-D?

feeds@yuku.com (Swanson) — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:29:01 GMT

Prototeen wrote:
And Swanson, I'm sorry that the only reason you posted in here is to tell me all my bad ideas on how to post in a forum, excuse me for not wanting to create a wall of text!

Apparently you misread what I said, I wasn't telling you how to write better I was telling you some of the rules you plan on breaking.

Re: Game Design Topic 1- 2-D or 3-D?

feeds@yuku.com (Craig Bayfield) — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:15:35 GMT

I would have said something along the lines of Rush style gameplay with Unleashed graphics myself, but have yet to play Unleashed. To clue the new guy in, Sonic Rush is my favorite game in the franchise, despite it being exceptionally short and each level containing about 25% on the rails waiting parts, except for some minor exceptions.

Only reason I didn't voice this is that I am a clear minority in my adoration for Sonic Rush and speak only for myself, when I state how...

Re: Game Design Topic 1- 2-D or 3-D?

feeds@yuku.com (Trudi Speed) — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 10:39:25 GMT

Prototeen wrote:
But once again I am faced with bitter, uncaring people who love nothing more than to just keep buying the crap Sega peddles out and do nothing to fix the problem other than complain.

Actually, while I can't speak for everyone, a lot of us don't buy all the crap! I certainly don't. But then again I'm not a Sonic fan anymore. I do however have ideas on what could work, so~
...

Re: Game Design Topic 1- 2-D or 3-D?

feeds@yuku.com (Craig Bayfield) — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:19:59 GMT

A Japanese franchise is in the hands of fans in English speaking parts of the world? Whaaaaaat?

The "true fans" are actually a minority and typically not the audience Sega are looking for anyway. That privlidge belongs to the age group we belonged in when we, ourselves, enjoyed the game (5-13), not to say that making games that us late teens, young adults and the occassional 30 something can enjoy is a bad thing, infact it's a wonderful thing. But you're thinking...

Game Design Topic 1- 2-D or 3-D?

feeds@yuku.com (Prototeen) — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:21:15 GMT

Hello fellow Sonic fans, I have come here to fix a great deal of wrongs that plague our favorite hedgehog's series. Now if you think this is just another save Sonic thread, you are wrong. Unlike the others, I plan to take every suggestion seriously, so that when I do become
a game designer(either for Sega(unlikely) or in my own company(more likely)) I have a good set of plans ready to go. Now this does not mean I am here to steal ideas for Sonic games, far from it, I have a lot of...