Obama wants new fuel standards http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/topic/8950/t/Obama-wants-new-fuel-standards.html en-us Copyright 2006, Yuku feeds@yuku.com (FeedMaster) webmaster@yuku.com (WebMaster) Tue, 19 May 2009 09:29:22 GMT Sun, 14 Jun 2009 09:45:24 GMT Yuku Feeds 1.0 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 Yuku http://static.yuku.com//feed/bypass/images/button-yuku.png http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/topic/8950/t/Obama-wants-new-fuel-standards.html Yuku - free hosted forums and profiles 88 31 {pics-1.1 "http://www.icra.org/ratingsv02.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (nz 1 vz 1 lz 1 oz 1 cz 1 ) "http://www.rsac.org/ratingsv01.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 0 )) Search Search Domain q http://yuku.com/search/direct/ <![CDATA[ Re: Obama wants new fuel standards ]]> http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/reply/308229/t/Obama-wants-new-fuel-standards.html#reply-308229 feeds@yuku.com (Ichigo Kurosaki) http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/sreply/308229 Sun, 14 Jun 2009 09:45:24 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Obama wants new fuel standards ]]> http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/reply/308202/t/Obama-wants-new-fuel-standards.html#reply-308202 I was not referring to the commercially viability of it yet, but with all technologies this would possibly change within the not to distant future. Another possibility in the future could literally do away with the stations altogether and you could plug your car in at the side of the road with the fuel cell working in reverse to make the gases, or even a hydrogen fuel station in the feeds@yuku.com (nukeallthewhales) http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/sreply/308202 Sat, 13 Jun 2009 14:28:52 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Obama wants new fuel standards ]]> http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/reply/308196/t/Obama-wants-new-fuel-standards.html#reply-308196
Nearly ALL H2 production IS electrolysis. LNG cracking is the new kid on the bock in H2 tech. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Ichigo Kurosaki) http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/sreply/308196 Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:10:42 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Obama wants new fuel standards ]]> http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/reply/308180/t/Obama-wants-new-fuel-standards.html#reply-308180 Ichigo Kurosaki wrote:
Not practical. Do you have any idea how involved L-Hyd transport is? Yes, I do.

Thus why i keep on coming back to the electrolysis scenario, where the hydrogen GAS can be produced at the point at which the customer can purchase it to fill their cars (petrol stations making their own fuel)

http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/sreply/308180 Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:38:28 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Obama wants new fuel standards ]]> http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/reply/308178/t/Obama-wants-new-fuel-standards.html#reply-308178
As for hybrids; they're made of the same materials as all cars are. Factory-spec batteries are typically NiMH, while aftermarket... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Ichigo Kurosaki) http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/sreply/308178 Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:21:01 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Obama wants new fuel standards ]]> http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/reply/308144/t/Obama-wants-new-fuel-standards.html#reply-308144 Ichigo Kurosaki wrote:
It takes energy to split hydrogen and oxygen. I never said anything about STORAGE, I was talking about DISTRIBUTION, as in MOVING it around to where it's needed.
Biodiesel has limits. There's only so much of it...
If the hydrogen was being made in one location then DISTRIBUTED a suitable and safe method of transportation and STORAGE would be required (petrol tankers but... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (nukeallthewhales) http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/sreply/308144 Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:24:54 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Obama wants new fuel standards ]]> http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/reply/308143/t/Obama-wants-new-fuel-standards.html#reply-308143 Biodiesel has limits. There's only so much of it... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Ichigo Kurosaki) http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/sreply/308143 Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:33:49 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Obama wants new fuel standards ]]> http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/reply/308121/t/Obama-wants-new-fuel-standards.html#reply-308121 Samanfur the Fox wrote:
There're other forms of alternative fuel.

I'm having images of cars being powered by animal waste (supporting and encouraging home grown produce image) or else the good old-fashioned chip fat based biodiesel that's being clamped down on over here (traffic police in some areas having been instructed... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (nukeallthewhales) http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/sreply/308121 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:42:56 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Obama wants new fuel standards ]]> http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/reply/308120/t/Obama-wants-new-fuel-standards.html#reply-308120 feeds@yuku.com (Ichigo Kurosaki) http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/sreply/308120 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:41:06 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Obama wants new fuel standards ]]> http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/reply/308109/t/Obama-wants-new-fuel-standards.html#reply-308109
I'm having images of cars being powered by animal waste (supporting and encouraging home grown produce ) or else the good old-fashioned chip fat based biodiesel that's being clamped down on over here (traffic police in some areas having been instructed to act on anything where the exhaust smells like a chippy, since it won't have paid fuel tax feeds@yuku.com (Samanfur the Fox) http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/sreply/308109 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:55:49 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Obama wants new fuel standards ]]> http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/reply/307390/t/Obama-wants-new-fuel-standards.html#reply-307390 HyperSonic2003 wrote:
matthayter700 wrote:
HyperSonic2003 wrote:
matthayter700 wrote:
HyperSonic2003 wrote:
Hybrids use... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (matthayter700) http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/sreply/307390 Sat, 23 May 2009 20:22:49 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Obama wants new fuel standards ]]> http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/reply/307385/t/Obama-wants-new-fuel-standards.html#reply-307385 matthayter700 wrote:
HyperSonic2003 wrote:
matthayter700 wrote:
HyperSonic2003 wrote:
Hybrids use different metals than nonhybrids? This I did not know. Thanks for that tidbit. As for... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (HyperSonic2003) http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/sreply/307385 Sat, 23 May 2009 17:11:49 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Obama wants new fuel standards ]]> http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/reply/307384/t/Obama-wants-new-fuel-standards.html#reply-307384 HyperSonic2003 wrote:
matthayter700 wrote:
HyperSonic2003 wrote:
Hybrids use different metals than nonhybrids? This I did not know. Thanks for that tidbit. As for electrolysis...we use that at NASA. Moon bases. Woo hoo! Shhh...you didn't hear it from me.
... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (matthayter700) http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/sreply/307384 Sat, 23 May 2009 17:05:40 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Obama wants new fuel standards ]]> http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/reply/307383/t/Obama-wants-new-fuel-standards.html#reply-307383 matthayter700 wrote:
HyperSonic2003 wrote:
Hybrids use different metals than nonhybrids? This I did not know. Thanks for that tidbit. As for electrolysis...we use that at NASA. Moon bases. Woo hoo! Shhh...you didn't hear it from me.

As for that "trust paying more money for something"...yea Madoff's is a... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (HyperSonic2003) http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/sreply/307383 Sat, 23 May 2009 15:45:31 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Obama wants new fuel standards ]]> http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/reply/307377/t/Obama-wants-new-fuel-standards.html#reply-307377 HyperSonic2003 wrote:
Hybrids use different metals than nonhybrids? This I did not know. Thanks for that tidbit. As for electrolysis...we use that at NASA. Moon bases. Woo hoo! Shhh...you didn't hear it from me.

As for that "trust paying more money for something"...yea Madoff's is a different situation I know...but it involved trusting someone else with their money. I was saying... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (matthayter700) http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/sreply/307377 Sat, 23 May 2009 13:34:56 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Obama wants new fuel standards ]]> http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/reply/307276/t/Obama-wants-new-fuel-standards.html#reply-307276
As for that "trust paying more money for something"...yea Madoff's is a different situation I know...but it involved trusting someone else with their money. I was saying that people might be mad if they pay higher taxes and don't see an outcome. Like the government pocketing... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (HyperSonic2003) http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/sreply/307276 Thu, 21 May 2009 21:46:01 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Obama wants new fuel standards ]]> http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/reply/307275/t/Obama-wants-new-fuel-standards.html#reply-307275 B Vulpix wrote:
Ethanol from what I've read is less efficient. We'd be wasting time and land growing all that corn. Possibly even counter productive?

The fuel economy standards will hurt the auto industry even more than they have already.

Even if they did reduce the price of gas, the government would realize it's taking in less... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (matthayter700) http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/sreply/307275 Thu, 21 May 2009 21:38:25 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Obama wants new fuel standards ]]> http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/reply/307251/t/Obama-wants-new-fuel-standards.html#reply-307251 feeds@yuku.com (tornadot) http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/sreply/307251 Thu, 21 May 2009 13:29:52 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Obama wants new fuel standards ]]> http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/reply/307236/t/Obama-wants-new-fuel-standards.html#reply-307236 Thaaaat's basically a very roundabout subsidy of cars that can't compete on their own.

Which is what we tried with ethanol and it failed.
Ethanol couldn't compete on its own, it had to have government help .But even then it failed. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (D B Vulpix) http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/sreply/307236 Wed, 20 May 2009 21:41:34 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Obama wants new fuel standards ]]> http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/reply/307234/t/Obama-wants-new-fuel-standards.html#reply-307234 B Vulpix wrote:
Ethanol from what I've read is less efficient. We'd be wasting time and land growing all that corn. Possibly even counter productive?

The fuel economy standards will hurt the auto industry even more than they have already.

Even if they did reduce the price of gas, the government would realize it's taking in less... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Rapidfire the Hedgehog) http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/sreply/307234 Wed, 20 May 2009 21:32:40 GMT <![CDATA[ Obama wants new fuel standards ]]> http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/topic/8950/t/Obama-wants-new-fuel-standards.html Obama wants new fuel standards

That's all good and all (If it reduces the amount of Hummers and F-350's I see, I'm happy) but what about those gas prices?

Thoughts?
]]> feeds@yuku.com (tornadot) http://sonichqcommunity.yuku.com/topic/8950 Tue, 19 May 2009 09:29:22 GMT