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Welcome to Knothole Village! Take a visit here under the shade of the Great Forest and chill for a while. This forum is open for all discussion on absolutely ANYTHING concerning the Archie Sonic Comics, or their cartoon origins in Sonic SatAM and AoStH. SU discussion is also okay here. Consider this place a hub for all fans that wish to discuss, complain, or praise recent goings on. Have fun! :) |
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 hyper shadow X |
Ask Joe about Sonic X (ongoing series). |
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Posts: 2369 (06/18/2005 4:47 PM) Fear my deadly neutrality. |
www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/news/111817526496158.htm
So according to this Sonic X will more than just a mini-series. SH ED: Sorry, I just didn't like those typos. :P ____________
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Samanfur the Fox |
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You're a bit late with that news. But thanks for trying. :)
Since our original thread on the SX series is still in limbo, I'll leave this open for now.
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Shadow Hog |
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Posts: 13934 (06/18/2005 7:24 PM) "The miracle
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It's news to me.
Regardless, whether this is GOOD or BAD news remains to be seen, since I don't know the quality of the comic.  98% of the teen population will believe any statistic they read. If you're one of the 2% that doesn't, copy and paste this in your signature. Remember the EliteBoard... |
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LianneKa Echidna |
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Posts: 5296 (06/19/2005 2:03 AM) Knuckles"Knut" |
If it's news to you, it means you aren't reading the news page as it's been on it for over a week. Torn & Mukluk have been doing a great job on it. Check out their work. Shame on you for not doing so. ;)
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Shadow Hog |
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Posts: 13934 (06/19/2005 10:03 AM) "The miracle
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Sorry, but I've kinda aligned Sonic HQ with "pop-up central" (even with all these pop-up blockers), so I suppose you can see why I've been trying not to visit the main page too much.
98% of the teen population will believe any statistic they read. If you're one of the 2% that doesn't, copy and paste this in your signature. Remember the EliteBoard... |
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AvianTalon |
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Posts: 273 (06/19/2005 4:05 PM) HQ New Forumer |
My pop-up blocker blocks them!
 I've already mentioned this elsewhere, but here goes again. WHY are they deciding to make this an ongoing series without a trial run first??? WHY do they think that it would have MORE support than the old Knuckles series did, or would have would they revive it? Personally? I think it's gonna fall flat on it's face. I don't even think I'm gonna buy it. VIVE LA KNUCKLES SERIES!!!! Knuckles has a more complex plot now than ever, but he's been downtrodden to a supporting cast member. He needs his own series back, or at least the second story to himself every issue. -Talon
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rattrap2000 |
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Posts: 96 (06/29/2005 6:27 PM) |
I think the Sonic X comic will fail before it gets to #25!
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Joe Edkin |
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Posts: 83 (07/08/2005 9:01 PM) |
You might at least want to give me a chance before you decide the book is going to crash and burn. *sniff sniff*
--Joe Edkin Sonic X Comic Writer |
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Shadow Hog |
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Posts: 13934 (07/08/2005 9:28 PM) "The miracle
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I'm not one to judge beforehand, usually, unless I have enough evidence to make a judgement off of (ie: I can't judge this since I know very little about it, but I can judge Gems Collection since I have very clear evidence of what both the US and JPN versions contain, and thus can come to the conclusion that it'd be better to import the game). Still, I'm not sure if I'll buy it, given that I'm not too fond of Archie Sonic and how it tends to confuse people into thinking that they're pertainent to the games (not exactly WHY I dislike Archie, let alone their fault, but still).
98% of the teen population will believe any statistic they read. If you're one of the 2% that doesn't, copy and paste this in your signature. Remember the EliteBoard... |
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Joe Edkin |
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Posts: 83 (07/09/2005 5:19 AM) |
AvianTalon wrote:
Quote: While I had no part in the decision to publish the Sonic X comic or its change in status from mini-series to ongoing series, I think both of your questions have the same answer: it all comes down to the popularity of the Sonic X TV show that runs Saturday mornings on Fox in the U.S. However, there is good news--ever since Mike Pellerito took over editing the Sonic the Hedgehog comic book, sales have been going steadily up. If that trend continues (and the Sonic X comic does well too), Archie is more likely to be receptive to doing more projects with Sonic and his supporting cast. As for Knuckles in Sonic X, you will definitely see him in the series. He is prominently featured in issues two, four, and six (and appears in issues one and probably five). Sonic X (like the Sonic the Hedgehog comic) has a huge cast, so it's hard to feature every character in every issue. - - - Shadow Hog wrote: Quote: All I can ask is that you give it a look when it comes out. The Sonic X comic is not tied to the Sonic the Hedgehog comic in any way. Archie has decided to take completely different approaches with the two titles, so hopefully if you don't like one, you might like the other--and if you like both, that's even better! Having worked on many licensed properties over the years, I know how difficult it is to take characters and concepts created in one medium and transfer them to another. Every entertainment medium has its own set of advantages and limitations, so it's almost impossible to take something created say for a game and transfer it to a comic or movie or TV show without have to make some changes to suit the new medium. I don't think it's any creator's intention to confuse people into thinking the comics are pertinent to the games. Personally, my approach is to take these characters created for the games and TV show and find interesting stories to tell, honoring the intentions of the characters as previously established. But, if I limited myself to only what was in the games or the TV show, then there wouldn't be much new to do and it would get monotnous after a while. I am using the games and the show as touchstones--in fact, there are elements in the first year of the Sonic X comic that will make references to specific elements of Sonic games past because I think it is fun to make use of them. It's a tip of the hat to what has come before and to the fans of the games. - - - Again, give the comic a chance before your decide whether you like it or not, or make predictions of its demise. If, after you've seen it, you hate it--fair enough. Obviously I'd be disappointed, but at least you wouldn't have pre-judged it. Cheers, Joe Edkin |
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True Red |
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Posts: 5915 (07/09/2005 5:34 AM) Rad Red Power! |
Ah, cool. Thanks for the news on Knuckles (most people here know my bias by now ;p).
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Dirk Amoeba |
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Posts: 3072 (07/09/2005 6:20 AM) Woon Socket |
One thing I'm confused about, Joe, if you don't mind answering...
Will Archie-SX be its own continuity, inspired by the Sonic X one but entirely seperate from it, like the relationship Archie-StH once had with SatAM? Or will it be seen more as a supplement to the existing Sonic X universe, where a comic reader shall assume that all events already portrayed in the Sonic X show are a part of the continuity of the Archie-SX universe? Also, Joe, I'm not sure if you've been asked this already, but are you a Sonic fan or were you hired mostly because of your experience in the comic field? Of course the latter is a great thing to have, but being a fan certainly won't hurt. |
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Joe Edkin |
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Posts: 83 (07/09/2005 8:32 AM) |
Dirk Amoeba asked...
Quote: Archie-SX will be tied directly into the TV show continuity (4Kids translation mainly). Unfortunately, because I don't get advance copies of the episodes, there will be a fairly long drag time between season 3 on TV and when I will be able to incorporate S3 elements into the comic. The first six issues take place between episodes 32 and 33. From there, the comic series will move forward in time, weaving in and out of TV story arcs. Things that happened on the TV show will be reflected in the series and expanded on as we develop our own unique plots. Quote: I was approached by Mike Pellerito for a couple reasons. I taught the storytelling and writing classes at the Joe Kubert School while he was a student there, so he was one of my students and he knew my writing philosophy. It was certainly that and my comic book experience that led him to call me. However, I also am a fan of the Sonic games. I bought the Sega Genesis system because of Sonic the Hedgehog and kept buying the cartidges as they came out. I really liked how you could piggyback Sonic 2 and 3 onto Sonic & Knuckles and get more game play out of them! (I haven't explored the Sonic GameCube collection enough to find out if it does the same thing...) So, you can count on seeing some old school elements of the original Sega games work their way into Archie-SX. I went out and bought a GameCube when I got the assigment so I could catch up with the games and use them for story ideas. There's a scene in issue three that is inspired directly from Sonic DX. So--it was my comic book experience that landed the gig. It's an added bonus that I have a history with the games. --Joe Edkin |
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EnergyEmerald |
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Posts: 595 (07/09/2005 9:18 AM) #1 Archie |
Very nice, Joe. However, what about Episodes 1-31?
Are they: -Unregarded -Assumed to have happened, but the stories are untold -Stories are untold, but flashbacks will show some of these episodes -A different approach Thank you! EE  |
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Dirk Amoeba |
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Posts: 3072 (07/09/2005 10:34 AM) Woon Socket |
EE, I think Joe's saying that the stories are assumed to have happened but left untold in the comic, although I bet he may do flashbacks. Sonic X has a thing for flashbacks, especially flashing back to the last several minutes of the first episode.
Archie-SX will be tied directly into the TV show continuity (4Kids translation mainly). Unfortunately, because I don't get advance copies of the episodes, there will be a fairly long drag time between season 3 on TV and when I will be able to incorporate S3 elements into the comic. That sounds pretty cool, although I'm not sure if you can keep that up forever. Looking at the success of Archie-StH, I think there's a chance that Archie-SX will outlive the SX show (even if episodes 79 onward ever get produced). If that occurs, the comic will then have to branch out into new territory, similar to the way Archie-StH did with issue 51 onwards. A quick question-- do we see a lot of the human characters, such as Sam Speed, Tanaka, or Stewart? I think the human characters have a lot of potential and most of them were underused (a VERY notable exception being Chris), particularly post-episode 53. |
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Posts: 4442 (07/09/2005 11:13 AM) Free as the Wind |
Please no overt exposure of Chris...o_O;;;
Though what does intrigue me is that they are starting at Ep 33 instead of Ep. 1 which is a okay by me. I have a feeling this coated stock means that the issues will be even more expensive than they already are...whatever happened to issues that cost only a dollar something?! Cliche Number 129032 in Fiction: If you marry the main character, you will die, often within the next 10 pages.
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Posts: 3489 (07/09/2005 12:56 PM) |
All I know is will Big end up squashed into the cameo appearance with little role like his Sonic X role? Cuz' that sucks since Big is super friggin' awesome.
~Neo "No more Sporks, knucknives, and knifoons, it's like a damn Dr. Suess kitchen in there!"
~That angry woman from Andy Richard rules the Universe #1 Constable Remington fan neoyi.deviantart.com (My DEVART Account) |
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Posts: 418 (07/09/2005 3:46 PM) HQ Forumer |
That doesn't sound that bad, for the moment.
M.Edkin, have you already planned appearances of SuperSonic and the Chaotix? *hopes for this comic to be translated in french and sold here in Belgium*   |
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Joe Edkin |
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Posts: 83 (07/09/2005 10:28 PM) |
EnergyEmerald asked:
Quote: As Dirk theorized, episodes 1-31 will have already happened prior to issue number one. They are definitely part of the continuity and previous adventures will be referenced in the course of the comics. Anyone who has read my previous comics work will know that I always try to honor the stories that have come before mine. Dirk asked: Quote: Sam Speed, Mr. Stewart, and Topaz all have very important roles in the first story arc. I expect them to remain integral to the series at it progresses. The President is also in the first story arc, as are Francine, Danny, and Helen. I expect to use Francine, Danny, and Helen on a regular basis. Other humans you will see in significant roles are Chris (I can't really NOT use Chris, but I do want to explore why Sonic chooses to hang around with him), Chuck, Nelson, and Lindsay. Editor Mike Pellerito and I have discussed some very interesting plans for Mr. Tanaka, but they would not really kick into high gear until after issue fourteen (if things go as planned. Although I will start laying some of the seeds for that storyline throughout the first year). Neo asked: Quote: It's funny. The second issue had originally been written for 22 pages of story, then it was expanded to 32 when we were told they'd sold extra ad space, then it was cut back to 22 when the extra ads did not pan out. In the 32 page version of the story, Big had a significant role. Unfortunately, when we got cut back to 22 pages, Big's scenes got cut. I am going to try to include as many characters as I can, and that includes Big. He is not part of the major plot for the first four issues, but as we move forward, you can expect to see more of him. adamis01 asked: Quote: I don't want to give away if or when you will see SuperSonic, so that's one question I'm not going to answer. Sorry. As for the Chaotix, I have proposed a storyline that could bring them back to Station Square for an indefinite period of time. I'd really like to have them to play with, but until I find out if the story is approved, I can't promise anything. The only concern I have is that we've already got a huge cast, so adding more characters to the mix makes it difficult for others like Big to have their chances to shine. --Joe Edkin |
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NeoRemington373 |
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Posts: 3489 (07/10/2005 12:15 AM) |
Other humans you will see in significant roles are Chris (I can't really NOT use Chris, but I do want to explore why Sonic chooses to hang around with him),
That feels good to me. I wanna know why Sonic would chose to hang with Chris as well. This might help me tolerate Chris a bit more. It's funny. The second issue had originally been written for 22 pages of story, then it was expanded to 32 when we were told they'd sold extra ad space, then it was cut back to 22 when the extra ads did not pan out. In the 32 page version of the story, Big had a significant role. Unfortunately, when we got cut back to 22 pages, Big's scenes got cut. Ain't that something? I am going to try to include as many characters as I can, and that includes Big. He is not part of the major plot for the first four issues, but as we move forward, you can expect to see more of him. YAYNESS!  ~Neo "No more Sporks, knucknives, and knifoons, it's like a damn Dr. Suess kitchen in there!"
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Posts: 1366 (07/10/2005 12:59 AM) |
Is there any chance of a comic book adaptation of any of the games that haven't already been adapted by the Archie comics or the Sonic X cartoon? (eg., Sonic Heroes, Sonic Advance)
And if you tell me you're even thinking about considering some of the lesser-known characters (Mighty, Nack/Fang, Ray, Bean, Bark, etc.) then you've definitely got me sold 
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