Announcing 'Sonic and Sega All-Stars Racing'

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John Taylor		#21	[-]
Posts: 2646 (05/29/2009 7:58 AM) If I was in World War 2, They'd call me Spitfire. Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Apparently Sumo Digital are doing it. And Richard Jacques is doing the soundtrack. This is the game of envitable disappointment. But so far touch wood, there has been nothing released so far that repulses me. The thing is if Sonic isn't in the car you would all complain that either Sonic isn't so fast he hasn't automatically won before the race started or that he is too fast that you can't win. The only extra Sonic characters I want playable (on top of the SST Roster) would be Knuckles and Metal Sonic. But I can see Blaze and Silver coming in for some reason. So tracks? Daytona speedway obviously. I hope we get a House of the Dead track where we can run over zombies. [url]http://profile.mygamercard.net/JohnBoyAdvance[/url] [img]http://card.mygamercard.net/JohnBoyAdvance.png[/img]
SonicV2		#22	[-]
Posts: 1898 (05/29/2009 9:03 AM) Original Recolor Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Ashide Bunni wrote: Also, I'm pretty disappointed that this is the "unsurprising" game announcement from Sega in addition to their already meger E3 list as opposed to any of their internally developed games that are stuck in Japan. Meh. Though I'm sort of surprised that they did greenlight another Sega All-Star game after the tennis one bombed and was discounted 1-2 months after its release. Guess they are trying to ride on the coatails of Mario Kart's success...again. Those games still in Japan must still be too Japanese oriented And I can never fathom the popularity of Mario Kart other than Mario being in the title. Most other cartoony racing games still doesn't have high levels of luck as MK and still takes some skill. BTW, does anyone think that Sonic's name was in the title solely for sales? John Taylor wrote: So tracks? Daytona speedway obviously. I hope we get a House of the Dead track where we can run over zombies. The Amusement Vision course in Monkey Ball 1 would be BADASS Last Edited By: SonicV2 05/29/2009 9:10 AM. Edited 1 times.
John Taylor		#23	[-]
Posts: 2648 (05/29/2009 12:24 PM) If I was in World War 2, They'd call me Spitfire. Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Apparently the original title was Sega Superstars Racing. It was changed by Sega. Probably Sega America. Overly long name aside, I really want this to do well. Mostly because SST was excellent and deserved much more than it got. I blame the obviously biased Nintedo games media. [url]http://profile.mygamercard.net/JohnBoyAdvance[/url] [img]http://card.mygamercard.net/JohnBoyAdvance.png[/img]
Veckums		#24	[-]
Posts: 1539 (05/29/2009 2:00 PM) A drunken sandwich Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	This so needs Skies of Arcadia characters in pirate ship cars. The seaside green hill track looks amazing. Other than that, blah to this idea. If they want to make a Mario Kart game, don't call attention to the less renowned cast by calling it "Sega All Stars." That's like calling a port of Sonic Chronicles "Sonic's epic quality RPG." In fact, it's kind of like calling it "Sonic Chronicles." shakespeare gets so tired of time travellers telling him not to listen to his mp3s because of all the anachronism he's causing. shakespeare just wants to ROCK! Last Edited By: Veckums 05/29/2009 2:03 PM. Edited 1 times.
Ashide Bunni		#25	[-]
Posts: 4988 (05/29/2009 2:51 PM) oro? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	John Taylor wrote: The only extra Sonic characters I want playable (on top of the SST Roster) would be Knuckles. Fixed. Because there really isn't a need for six Sonic characters(a fifth character would already be pushing it) when Sega has already a huge library of characters from classic and potential new classic franchises. Also John, maybe this might be moderately successful on the HD systems since there are no kart good racers on those platforms. Or it could have the same success on the Wii/DS since there is already an audience for this type of game there. Or when it drops to $30 after a month of its release because of hardly moving units at $50. This is all assuming that the game/word of mouth is good. SonicV2 wrote: Those games still in Japan must still be too Japanese oriented And I can never fathom the popularity of Mario Kart other than Mario being in the title. Most other cartoony racing games still doesn't have high levels of luck as MK and still takes some skill. Many of Sega's games in Japan are no less Japanese-oriented than the stuff that Square-Enix, Capcom, and smaller companies produce and publish in the West. One of the games that have not been announced in the West is Shining Force Feather which is an actual SRPG. A new Shining Force that actually an SRPG, I haven't seen that in over a decade. Also, as for the popularity of MK it is because the first game was easy to get into, very good, and a financial success. As a result, other comapanies tried to cash-in the kart racing fad with mostly poor results sans a few exceptions. It was especially bad in the Saturn/PS1/N64 generation. Several comapnies since then stopped producing kart racers since many consumers trusted the MK-brand(reguardless of polarizing opinions between each entry) over anything else. The MK seemed to get a new resurgence in popularity due to the advent of online modes and the extreme popularity of the DS and Wii. It also helps that there hasn't been any decent attempt at a good MK competitor in years. Last Edited By: Ashide Bunni 05/29/2009 3:18 PM. Edited 1 times.
Questern		#26	[-]
Posts: 738 (05/29/2009 3:08 PM) Captain Sarcasm: The Ender of Topics Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	looks at first post w/ pic A Lotus? Sonic gets a Lotus convertible?? pouts In other news, I think it would be hilarious to see Max driving a nice little steampunk racer. "If my calculations are correct...when this baby hits 88 mph...you're gonna see some serious s***." ~Back to the Future "Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia." ~Charles Schultz
SHADONIC		#27	[-]
Posts: 1213 (05/29/2009 4:26 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	John Taylor wrote: The only extra Sonic characters I want playable (on top of the SST Roster) would be Knuckles and Metal Sonic. But I can see Blaze and Silver coming in for some reason. Well in interview Peter Capella, Silver's VA, mention that he was doing voice work for a Sonic collaboration game and he couldn't talk about the top secret game. He was probably referring to this game and not the Winter Olympics since we already knew about it existance at the time of the interview. However he didn't' specify if he was voicing Silver or some other character .
Rapidfire the Hedgehog		#28	[-]
Posts: 792 (05/29/2009 4:27 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	begins countdown until footage of NiGHTS in a car that looks just like himself, a la the roller coaster/boat scenarios from JoD, show up Honestly, this is the kind of project that I would have expected Nintendo, who flagrantly love to wave in everyone's face the number of franchises they have, to undertake before Sega. Still, not the worst news I've heard from Sega. Not the best news, but certainly not the worst. I just wish they'd scrap that embarrassingly redundant title and call it "Super Crash Brothers" or something.
D B Vulpix		#29	[-]
Posts: 1755 (05/30/2009 12:10 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPbXp83Q2Wg&NR=1 The old Sonic Drift commercial. I had actually never seen this before. Hmmm, Sega All-Stars Racing. Take Sonic out of the title or just call it...Sega Racing or Sega Rally? Sega Circuit? Sonic x Lady of the Lake
MattManic7325		#30	[-]
Posts: 1318 (05/30/2009 2:24 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	It's a real shame, but would anyone apart from the Sega diehard (ie. not your average consumer) really buy this game if Sonic wasn't in it? Sonic's been their only really viable property for a while now - I mean there's others, but nowhere near to the same extent that Nintendo has Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, etc.
John Taylor		#31	[-]
Posts: 2649 (05/30/2009 3:23 AM) If I was in World War 2, They'd call me Spitfire. Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I dont think anyone has said they want Sonic out of the game, but the name is so large and unwieldy it has a "Wolverine and the X Men" vibe about it. Also, I just hope Pete Cappella is just voicing some characters that haven't been voiced before. Because Silver would be the greatest waste of a character slot since Wolf in SSBB. Oh I went there. Also Ashide, whats wrong with Metal Sonic? [url]http://profile.mygamercard.net/JohnBoyAdvance[/url] [img]http://card.mygamercard.net/JohnBoyAdvance.png[/img]
Ashide Bunni		#32	[-]
Posts: 4989 (05/30/2009 5:37 AM) oro? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Nothing's wrong with Metal Sonic, but I would rather see a different Sega character take up that slot such as someone from Valkyria Chronicles, Shinobi, Sakura Wars, Panzer Dragoon, Space Harrier, a car from Daytona, etc. than yet another Sonic character no matter how great that being is.
John Taylor		#33	[-]
Posts: 2650 (05/30/2009 7:24 AM) If I was in World War 2, They'd call me Spitfire. Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Fair enough. This is still the game of envitable disappointment though. Rival for the Sonic Cycle? [url]http://profile.mygamercard.net/JohnBoyAdvance[/url] [img]http://card.mygamercard.net/JohnBoyAdvance.png[/img]
Rapidfire the Hedgehog		#34	[-]
Posts: 793 (05/30/2009 8:59 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Even the Jacques Effect couldn't save Chronicles though.
Ashide Bunni		#35	[-]
Posts: 4990 (05/30/2009 10:29 AM) oro? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	That's because Richard Jacques really didn't compose the crap that was in Chronicles. It was just some schumck imitating Jacques with some poor midis.
Veckums		#36	[-]
Posts: 1540 (05/30/2009 11:23 PM) A drunken sandwich Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Also, as for the popularity of MK it is because the first game was easy to get into, very good, and a financial success. As a result, other comapanies tried to cash-in the kart racing fad with mostly poor results sans a few exceptions. It was especially bad in the Saturn/PS1/N64 generation. Several comapnies since then stopped producing kart racers since many consumers trusted the MK-brand(reguardless of polarizing opinions between each entry) over anything else. The MK seemed to get a new resurgence in popularity due to the advent of online modes and the extreme popularity of the DS and Wii. It also helps that there hasn't been any decent attempt at a good MK competitor in years. A spectacular analysis. The rush of kart clones made the whole idea of a kart clone a joke, guaranteeing MK dominance even though the sequals were arguably not as good as the original. With MK Wii being a huge success we may be getting another such rush, starting with SEGA. Well in interview Peter Capella, Silver's VA, mention that he was doing voice work for a Sonic collaboration game and he couldn't talk about the top secret game. He was probably referring to this game and not the Winter Olympics since we already knew about it existance at the time of the interview. However he didn't' specify if he was voicing Silver or some other character. You would think that SEGA would not want to keep calling attention to SonicNEXT, yet they continually celebrate it, force-feeding Silver nearly as much as Shadow. shakespeare gets so tired of time travellers telling him not to listen to his mp3s because of all the anachronism he's causing. shakespeare just wants to ROCK!
Full Metal Rayzor		#37	[-]
Posts: 2910 (05/31/2009 1:45 AM) pillar of optimism! Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Seriously, what's wrong with Silver other than he was introduced in the "worst" Sonic game? Does everytime they use Shadow celebrate SA2, Amy SCD, or Tails STH2? "Drinking beer is easy. Trashing your hotel room is easy. But being a Christian, that's a tough call. That's real rebellion!"-Vincent Damon Furnier, AKA Alice Cooper
Ashide Bunni		#38	[-]
Posts: 4991 (05/31/2009 1:58 PM) oro? Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Seriously, what's wrong with Silver other than he was introduced in the worst Sonic game? See, I bolded the main answer for you. Also he was an original concept from a canned and problematic-looking game shoved into a crappy hedgehog design form in a rushed game.
Full Metal Rayzor		#39	[-]
Posts: 2913 (05/31/2009 3:15 PM) pillar of optimism! Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Ashide Bunni wrote: Seriously, what's wrong with Silver other than he was introduced in the "worst" Sonic game? See, I bolded the main answer for you. Also he was an original concept from a canned and problematic-looking game shoved into a crappy hedgehog design form in a rushed game. I realize the answer, Acid; I just don't understand judging the character on the merits of the game and not his character or potential. I mean I know people don't care much for his character or potential either, but that is the only thing they should judge him on not how they feel about his intro game. "Drinking beer is easy. Trashing your hotel room is easy. But being a Christian, that's a tough call. That's real rebellion!"-Vincent Damon Furnier, AKA Alice Cooper
Veckums		#40	[-]
Posts: 1542 (05/31/2009 5:12 PM) A drunken sandwich Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	To me it is more his design than the game. The most important thing about any Sonic character is design. It's not like they're popular because they are compelling statements about humanity. Sonic's appeal has a lot to do with his stylized original design. Silver, other than the cool gloves, looks like something deviantart vomited. But by saying that his appearances are a celebration of SonicNEXT, I refer to how a character who has only had a role in that game (not counting Rivals) is showing up as a staple mini-game and cameo regular. I also had just been to the official Sonic blog where they have the SonicNEXT boxart in the banner. shakespeare gets so tired of time travellers telling him not to listen to his mp3s because of all the anachronism he's causing. shakespeare just wants to ROCK!

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