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Laura F Simons	Ex-Thrd: S123&K: OfcBgDcsT	Lead	[-]
Posts: 5 (11/10/2008 7:00 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None ...... ---------------- SFL Last Edited By: Laura F Simons 04/18/2009 7:37 PM. Edited 7 times.
Robobotnik		#1	[-]
Posts: 3373 (11/10/2008 7:40 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	You know you could easily check Wikipedia or GHZ to find this stuff out, and there aren't going to be experts, just fans who looked. Edit: And just for the sake of clearing it up, some of the things aren't going to get real answers. The chemicals are different from water because they're chemicals, nothing specific is said. Labyrinth is just a Zone, it's there because the designers wanted variety for the levels. Help support the British Games Industry Last Edited By: Robobotnik 11/10/2008 8:33 AM. Edited 1 times.
Crimson Darkwolfe		#2	[-]
Posts: 4353 (11/10/2008 10:52 AM) Permanant Newbie Lord Hotboxers Fluffing Toby's Space Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Ahahahahahahaha oh darlin' you have to stop this, my sides are splitting. But I suppose that since this has been deigned official by the posting gods, I'd best throw my hat into the ring. Sonic was in Labrynth because he was chasing Ivo there. Ivo was there because it was a way back to his base that he could loose Sonic in. Mega Mack varies on sources but I go by the StC explaination that it's chemically designed to kill Sonic, sapping his strength and energy on contact. Thus It is obviously powerade. Ivo was building someplace to put the Emerald. No point stealing it early and having three annoyed little fuzzies after you before you are ready to use it, is there? Load bearing boss. Or for a more storyline answer, the deathegg's piloting systems were slaved to the eggmobile, when that went down, the deathegg went out of control and plonked it's punk ass in the volcano. ...Okay I can't think of any logical reason for this. It's just cool. It's the Master Blummin' Emerald. It's ALWAYS useful. He could have used it in his next scheme, if his next scheme didn't involve mentally hilarious birds.
Robobotnik		#3	[-]
Posts: 3375 (11/10/2008 11:41 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Okay I can't think of any logical reason for this. It's just cool. Maybe it was calling Flying Battery? Help support the British Games Industry
Crimson Darkwolfe		#4	[-]
Posts: 4355 (11/10/2008 11:47 AM) Permanant Newbie Lord Hotboxers Fluffing Toby's Space Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	But why would that change the weather? Make it darker by blotting out the sun maybe, but not bring about an early autumn...
The Turtle Guy		#5	[-]
Posts: 3903 (11/10/2008 1:19 PM) Time Traveller Scalie Power! Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Laura F Simons wrote: LABYRINTH ZONE: -- HOW did Sonic end up in the Labyrinth zone? Every other zone is easy to comprehend(Sonic just ran to them.), but running to a labyrinth, hidden deep in the darkness of the island, doesn't seem very believeable. The labyrinth is on Sonic's island, and he should know that if he went in there, he could die. So how did he end up in there? -- What was Robotnik doing in the Labyrinth zone? I would expect him to be back at his base laughing as he thought about Sonic being trapped in the labyrinth forever, but instead he just shows up at the end of the zone and doesn't even fight Sonic? If he wasn't going to fight him, then why bother being there? Perhaps he was pursuing Eggman? That answers both questions. Laura F Simons wrote: CHEMICAL PLANT ZONE: -- What is "Mega Mack"(pink water), and what makes it different from regular water(besides being pink?)? It's heavily polluted and filled with dangerous chemicals. Also, when it comes to gameplay, you drown faster in the mack than in normal water. Laura F Simons wrote: *Sonic 3 & Knuckles* -- WHY did Robotnik wait until Hidden Palace to steal the Master Emerald? Why didn't he just steal it while Knuckles was dealing with Sonic in earlier levels? The Palace was obviously unprotected at those moments. He was looking for it the entire game, getting closer and closer. He didn't find it until after he and Sonic had conquered Lava Reef, and simultaneously discovered the Hidden Palace. Laura F Simons wrote: MUSHROOM HILL ZONE: -- At the end of the zone, Robotnik is using some sort of satellite which is shooting electricity into the air. What exactly was that satellite doing? Are we supposed to assume that the satellite was responsible for the suddenly-changing-seasons? HOW was it doing so? ....Applied Phlebotinum?
8Bit Star		#6	[-]
Posts: 10 (11/10/2008 3:10 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Laura F Simons wrote: *Sonic the Hedgehog 1* LABYRINTH ZONE: -- HOW did Sonic end up in the Labyrinth zone? Every other zone is easy to comprehend(Sonic just ran to them.), but running to a labyrinth, hidden deep in the darkness of the island, doesn't seem very believeable. The labyrinth is on Sonic's island, and he should know that if he went in there, he could die. So how did he end up in there? I'm more interested in where you got all this OTHER story information. Sonic 1 takes place on an island? That's news to me. Back in the Sonic 1-thru-Knuckles era South Island existed only in the SMS/GG games. "He should know that if he went there, he could die,"--that didn't stop him from going to every other zone in the game, so why this one? -- What was Robotnik doing in the Labyrinth zone? I would expect him to be back at his base laughing as he thought about Sonic being trapped in the labyrinth forever, but instead he just shows up at the end of the zone and doesn't even fight Sonic? If he wasn't going to fight him, then why bother being there? He was using the bathroom. *Sonic the Hedgehog 2* CHEMICAL PLANT ZONE: -- What is "Mega Mack"(pink water), and what makes it different from regular water(besides being pink?) I always thought it was called "Mega MUCK." And I'm guessing the difference is some chemical thing... though you'd think if it were part of dangerous experiments or something, it would corrode Sonic's body or burn out his eyes or mess with his mind or something, rather than simply drowning him. Maybe its mixtures Robotnik discarded due to their relative harmlessness? *Sonic 3 & Knuckles* -- WHY did Robotnik wait until Hidden Palace to steal the Master Emerald? Why didn't he just steal it while Knuckles was dealing with Sonic in earlier levels? The Palace was obviously unprotected at those moments. HIDDEN Palace Zone. HIDDEN. Think about it. LAUNCH BASE ZONE: -- How the heck does defeating the last boss destroy the entire Death Egg? This happens just before the player goes to Mushroom Hill. It doesn't make any sense. It apparently doesn't, since the Death Egg returns for the final zones of S&K. Also its destruction could just've been a conveniently-timed malfunction that had nothing to do with Sonic's victory. MUSHROOM HILL ZONE: -- At the end of the zone, Robotnik is using some sort of satellite which is shooting electricity into the air. What exactly was that satellite doing? Are we supposed to assume that the satellite was responsible for the suddenly-changing-seasons? HOW was it doing so? I always assumed it was a hologram projector personally. The real question is WHY was he doing this. DOOMSDAY ZONE: -- WHY did Robotnik still want the Master Emerald, even after the Death Egg was blown to smithereens? The emerald was clearly no longer useful, so why did he try to fly away with it? The emerald was "clearly" no longer useful? Name me a single way in which it wouldn't be useful to have the Master Emerald on hand.
Psxphile	oh god what are you doing	#7	[-]
Posts: 11332 (11/10/2008 8:17 PM) Reality whenever... Gaming forever. Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Sonic 1 takes place on an island? That's news to me. South Island has always been the location for the first game's zones. It's in the Japanese manual (in fact, all of the 16-bit titles take place on islands... and even Chaotix, though Sonic CD actually takes place on a small hovering planet above a lake). MUSHROOM HILL ZONE: -- At the end of the zone, Robotnik is using some sort of satellite which is shooting electricity into the air. What exactly was that satellite doing? Are we supposed to assume that the satellite was responsible for the suddenly-changing-seasons? HOW was it doing so? I always assumed it was a hologram projector personally. The real question is WHY was he doing this. Because SCIENCE. Anyway, yes it affects the forest in some way, and it seems to alter their seasonal colors. Why is he doing this? Just what part of mad scientist didn't you get? I always thought it was called "Mega MUCK." I just assume we don't call it anything. It's synonymous with "Mobius", just another example of SOA/SOE's unneeded labeling for the sake of labeling. Sega 02: "SONIC TEAM. The Sonic Team development studio was established to execute the wishes of Sega." Sega 03: "It was intended to enact the business strategy we had created." Sega 05: "However, it appears to have become dominated by a single, zealous individual." Sega 04: "Yes it has. We must take it back into our own dominion." Sega 01: "It is time. We must restore SONIC TEAM and the Sonic series to their proper role." "Iizuka, you will take responsibility for betraying Sega."
kaze the chao		#8	[-]
Posts: 1961 (11/10/2008 9:33 PM) Evil on Board Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Sonic 1: Took place on South Island. Eggman took animals and placed them in robots, so Sonic had to free them all and SAVE THE WORLD. Sonic 2: Took place on Westside Island (correct me if I'm wrong). Eggman tries the same thing again, and Sonic does the same thing again, this time Tails joins him in the quest. First appearance of Super Sonic. Sonic 3: Took place on Angel Island. Eggman duped newcomer Knuckles into thinking Sonic and Tails were after the Master Emerald, and stole Sonic's once he arrived. In the meantime, he rebuilt his Death Egg from Sonic 2 which was destroyed at the end in Launch Base Zone. Sonic and Knuckles: Still on Angel Island. Pretty much the second half of Sonic 3. In Sonic's and/or Tails' side, the hunt for Eggman continues and such. Knuckles gets in the way sometimes. After another fight in Hidden Palace, Eggman shows up and takes the Master Emerald. Knux tries to get it back, but is shocked, so he instead shows Sonic and/or Tails the way to Sky Sanctuary. After making it through there and beating another robot Sonic copy, they infiltrate the Death Egg, beat Eggman, and recover the Master Emerald. In Knuckles' side, he faces an Egg Robo and defeats the robot Sonic copy to get back the Master Emerald. That's the best way I can put it. For one thing, there's no point in trying to explain backstory in a game that never really had one to begin with!
The Turtle Guy		#9	[-]
Posts: 3907 (11/11/2008 10:59 AM) Time Traveller Scalie Power! Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	And Sonic 3D Blast took place on Flicky Island! =D shot
SonicV2		#10	[-]
Posts: 1561 (11/11/2008 11:07 AM) Original Recolor Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	And Sonic Adventure took place on a soon-to-be island more shot ----- spoilers for your life The main character dies
kaze the chao		#11	[-]
Posts: 1965 (11/11/2008 12:14 PM) Evil on Board Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	SonicV2 wrote: And Sonic Adventure took place on EARTH! more shot Fixed.
Craig Bayfield		#12	[-]
Posts: 4125 (11/11/2008 12:30 PM) Kyon/John Smith Shipper Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I think we need to make a "Geography of Sonic's Earth" topic. I think all of Eggman's Chaos Control splitting of the world and unleashing Gaia Demon has screwed with things so much that-- My gosh. Is that a canonical excuse for why Sonic's Earth has such a twisted landscape?
kaze the chao		#13	[-]
Posts: 1966 (11/11/2008 12:36 PM) Evil on Board Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	When you also think about it, Unleashed isn't the first time he's split the world apart. Sonic Advance 3, anyone?
Craig Bayfield		#14	[-]
Posts: 4127 (11/11/2008 12:47 PM) Kyon/John Smith Shipper Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	o.o; I just referenced Eggman Chaos Controlling the world apart in Advance 3 o.o;
Laura F Simons		#15	[-]
Posts: 6 (11/11/2008 4:20 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	MORE BACKGROUND DISCUSSION (NEW!) *Sonic the Hedgehog 1* SCRAP BRAIN ZONE: - WHY is the zone called "Scrap Brain"? Every other zone in the game has a self-explanatory title. But "Scrap Brain" is ambiguous. What is it supposed to mean? (NEW!) *Sonic the Hedgehog 2* METROPOLIS ZONE: - Why is Metropolis Zone called a metropolis if it's not even a city? OIL OCEAN ZONE: - What exactly is Oil Ocean Zone supposed to be? Is it an oil factory owned by Robotnik himself? It doesn't make much sense that any government would allow a factory to dump oil into the outside world and make an "ocean" out of it? DEATH EGG ZONE: - How the heck does destroying the final boss cause the entire Death Egg to self-destruct? This is probably the most senseless part of the game. The whole interior just explodes for no reason. (NEW!) *Sonic 3 & Knuckles* - WHY does Knuckles want Angel Island to be back in the sky? Why does he care if Angel Island falls into the ocean? Does he actually WANT to be lonely? CARNIVAL NIGHT ZONE: - What is a carnival doing on Angel Island? Did Knuckles build that all by himself? Did Robotnik build it? WHY would Robotnik build a carnival anyways? Last Edited By: Laura F Simons 11/11/2008 5:41 PM. Edited 1 times.
Craig Bayfield		#16	[-]
Posts: 4129 (11/11/2008 4:36 PM) Kyon/John Smith Shipper Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I'll avoid the pointless questions, and give some StC trivia. Sonic the Comic (UK) by the by. It's off topic for in-depth discussion and is no way a canonical answer, but this is relevant, no less. During the AMAZING S3&K adaption, Knuckles had a mini-saga where he notices that Carni Isle Zone had been built. He was confused by this and approaches to find The Marxio Brothers (a parody of the Marx and Mario Brothers, they ran the Casino Night Zone before Sonic and gang destroyed it) who say Robotnik built it and they convince him to make it a tourist spot, which he is very annoyed about (StC Knuckles likes his privacy and hates intruders, at this point of the story he also thought Sonic a villain, and he had kicked Robotnik off the island, though construction on the Death Egg was continuing against his knowledge), so they show him around the park and get him to go on rides which they booby trap to kill him. The story ends with Knuckles smashing the entire chunk of island off into the ocean, where it did become a tourist hot spot. Then Sonic & Knuckles happened, and it was awesome. It was like Castle in the Sky meets Sonic & Knuckles meets a freaking amazing splash page of Sonic fighting Egg Robos as he plumets to Earth and tries to steal their jetpacks.
Robobotnik		#17	[-]
Posts: 3377 (11/11/2008 4:38 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	1. It's called Scrap Brain Zone because it sounds rather bizarre, metallic, sciency, and cool. Pretty memorable name really. 2. I've thought about Metropolis myself, I assume it's a rather large factory that's in a city, or again, just intended to sound cool, and the devs failed to find the meaning behind the name. Side note, when I first played Sonic 2 I pronounced the stage as Metro Police, thinking that's what it meant... <.< I'll let others answer the rest or go in deeper. Edit: Craig's post is awesome and makes me feel the need to hunt down StC again. <.< Help support the British Games Industry Last Edited By: Robobotnik 11/11/2008 4:42 PM. Edited 2 times.
Craig Bayfield		#18	[-]
Posts: 4130 (11/11/2008 4:53 PM) Kyon/John Smith Shipper Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	And, hey, as this is the OFFICIAL thread for this. How do you pronounce Hydrocity. All my housemates in USLand call it Hydrocity (rhyming with Velocity) I call it Hydro City as in a water city. Also, will Laura be joining us in this conversation or is she just the quiz master who will have us answering for her amusement?
Robobotnik		#19	[-]
Posts: 3378 (11/11/2008 4:58 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I've always said Hydro City also...though Hydrocity sounds cool though.. Help support the British Games Industry
8Bit Star		#20	[-]
Posts: 11 (11/11/2008 4:59 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Oh, the JAPANESE manuals! That's why its news to me. Being a red-blooded American, I tend to go with whatever the US Manuals say, and that isn't much (then again, I grew up with the "true" Sonic which really had no one true "version" of the story but where you could just make junk up. Growing up with two entirely different Sonic toons plus the games will do that to you). Now to answer Laura's new questions: Laura F Simons wrote: MORE BACKGROUND DISCUSSION (NEW!) *Sonic the Hedgehog 1* SCRAP BRAIN ZONE: - WHY is the zone called "Scrap Brain"? Every other zone in the game has a self-explanatory title. But "Scrap Brain" is ambiguous. What is it supposed to mean? Robotnik allowed Scratch and Grounder to name it. Grounder's brain accidentally got thrown in one of those crushy things, and Scratch made a bad joke about a scrap brain. The name stuck. (NEW!) *Sonic the Hedgehog 2* METROPOLIS ZONE: - Why is Metropolis Zone called a metropolis if it's not even a city? For the same reason "Gimmick Mountain" zone is called that even though its not really a mountain... maybe you're inside it, or maybe you're inside a localized part of it. Or maybe whoever names these zones just couldn't think of a better one. For that matter, who DOES name these zones? OIL OCEAN ZONE: - What exactly is Oil Ocean Zone supposed to be? Is it an oil factory owned by Robotnik himself? It doesn't make much sense that any government would allow a factory to dump oil into the outside world and make an "ocean" out of it? I personally always assumed the Sonic world didn't really have a "real" government, just lots of small despotic groups that occassionally interacted. DEATH EGG ZONE: - How the heck does destroying the final boss cause the entire Death Egg to self-destruct? This is probably the most senseless part of the game. The whole interior just explodes for no reason. You see, why Sonic was fighting Robotnik, some Arwings were flying down a canyon looking for a certain ventillation shaft.... (NEW!) *Sonic 3 & Knuckles* - WHY does Knuckles want Angel Island to be back in the sky? Why does he care if Angel Island falls into the ocean? Does he actually WANT to be lonely? He's an environmentalist and Angel Island is supposed to float. (I also always got the idea that if AI wasn't restored it would eventually sink below the ocean, which naturally would suck). CARNIVAL NIGHT ZONE: - What is a carnival doing on Angel Island? Did Knuckles build that all by himself? Did Robotnik build it? WHY would Robotnik build a carnival anyways? It was there long before either Knuckles or Robotnik arrived. Who built it is anyone's guess, but they're gone now. EDIT: And another vote for "Hydro City." I always assumed that was obvious. I mean, Hydro = water and its (supposed to be) a city. Last Edited By: 8Bit Star 11/11/2008 5:03 PM. Edited 1 times.

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